ALL ABOUT CABOT CITRUS FARMS

ALL ABOUT CABOT CITRUS FARMS

Are you ready to discover the sun-kissed greens and perfect drives of Florida's most exciting new addition to the golfing world? Dive into the splendid fairways at Cabot Citrus Farms, a tropical golf paradise that's swiftly capturing the hearts of golf enthusiasts everywhere. Named the 'Best New Golf Course,' this gem in Brooksville isn't just making waves; it's setting a new standard for golfing excellence. From the elegant layout mirroring the grandeur of historical courses to the innovative use of citrus-themed markers, Cabot Citrus Farms promises an experience as refreshing as a Floridian creamsicle beer from a local brewery. Follow us as we journey through this golfing haven in our podcast, where lush fairways, the sparkle of TrackMan-assisted drives, and the taste of victory await you! #CabotCitrusFarms #BestNewFloridaGolfCourse #GolfParadise


00:00: Imagining a ridiculous golf trip with friends.
03:50: World woods was one of our favorites and now Cabot made it better
09:00 Vision for World Woods Golf Club: "Imagine Augusta and Pine Valley and the most amazing practice facility in the world"- PGA 
15:29: Expanding golf range with lodge offers convenience.
18:09: Excited for trip, bring your yoyos
19:47: creates enjoyable, inspiring golf courses.
22:42 DITYAMA plays 18 with Gerry Carey.
36:34 Adventurous golf hole offers two different approaches.
39:48 Golf hole reminiscent of original, still cool.
43:34 Course still early but will be amazing.
50:53 Appreciative of invitation, interested in future visits.
51:46 Grateful shoutouts to friends and kangaroo.



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Let me just paint a picture here for you folks. Imagine




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coordinating the most ridiculous guys golf trip ever.




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You probably have a couple of yoyos in your group that are going to make




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the trip really fun. You can't wait. You've been waiting all




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year for this ditcom. And so you get there now, you guys get, you get




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lucky. They put you in one of the lodges that's right next to this




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amazing driving range that has track men right outside your




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door. Now, your two knuckleheads that you brought with you, you're worried about them knocking




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one over, breaking one. That's the only thing we had to worry about. But other




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than that, you're so stoked. Then you play the most amazing golf ever, which we'll




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get into the courses here in just a second. But then you're like, I want




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more. So you could do that at the squeeze while there's light,




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or you could even if you're really a degenerate and you still need more




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time, you could go play the wedge at nighttime.




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Did I tell you about my albatross?




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Welcome to another episode of did I tell you about my albatross? I'm




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your host, Albie. This is the golf podcast for honest degenerates. It's




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like teeing up with your favorite foursome every week and diving into the best stories




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in and around golf. You guys ready to tee off? Let's go.




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We added chilling on the right. Welcome. Welcome to




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another edition of did I tell you about my albatross?




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I'm your host, Albie. Boy, we got a good one for you tonight. I got




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my main man panda here. Say hey, panda. Hello,




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world. So we got a special episode because we're going to be talking all about




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a special experience we had recently at Cabot




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Citrus Farms here in




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Tampa. They're in Brooksville there. In Brooksville. Would you




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call that Brooksville? Yep. In Brooklyn. The




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address says it does, I think so. He who questions the panda




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is wrong. Yeah, I should have learned my lesson on that a long time ago.




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When we do stump the panda, which we may have time to maybe




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sneak in a couple of, stump the pandas. I have a couple on deck for




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you. But really, tonight's episode, panda Cabot Citrus Farms had us invited.




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Dit Yama, did I tell you about Malbatraz for a,




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what would you call that? A preview play? Yeah, for media day preview play. Yeah,




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media day preview play. And it was spectacular. We're media.




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That's one of the things I was like, wow, we got a media we are




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media, and I know we are because we were there with a bunch of media




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people. Like, there were newspapers. It was crazy. They had




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tv people there. Actual media. Actual media, like, people with cameras.




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And then we were there with our camera phones. I had a drone




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with me at one point, but, man, I want to talk a little




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bit about Cabot citrus Farms because this. Let me tell everyone a little bit about




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Cabot citrus Farms and why it is so special to me.




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World woods was a golf course in the




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same location. They basically, Cabot bought it from the people that owned




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woods. It was just a guy, too. I think the previous owner was like one




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japanese dude. One japanese dude. They had an amazing vision for it. It




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still was a great golf. The track was amazing. It's one of my




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favorite courses to play in Florida back then,




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when it was in good shape, in my opinion, it was one of the




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most enjoyable rounds you could play in, least. At least for




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me. And they had two main courses there. They had pine




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barrens and they had rolling




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oaks. Those were the two biggies. Right. Their practice facility there.




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Then we're talking about the old version. We're going to get back to the cabot




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here in just a minute and what they've done with it. The practice facility there




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was like barred. I mean, it was amazing. It was crazy. I think




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they had the 360 range.




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The old one was. Yeah, it was circular. Yeah, circular, which. I love those. And




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then in the putting, you had practice putting facility. That was




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unreal. Always just an incredible time. And the nice part about is the




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location. So it's in the middle of nowhere, Brooksville. No offense to all the Brooksville




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listeners out there, but there's just nothing around there now. That place is blowing up




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lately. I'm not saying, but back then there was nothing there other than




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farmland, but it's still really easy to get to. So, like, from




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Tampa, it's just a 45 minutes drive on a very easy, like, tampa




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is terrible for traffic, but getting out there is a piece of cake because you




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just take what we call the veterans and it's about 45 minutes away




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or so. Really easy to get to from Tampa, really easy to get to from




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Orlando. And then it's just like




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they just kind of ran out of money. I feel like. I don't really know




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the exact story, like, what happened to Worldwoods, but it definitely




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declined over the past few. The last few years that they were




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around. But again, still, the layout, the track




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was just unreal. Lots of trees. I'm talking about the old version. Lots




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of trees. I believe that pine




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barrens. That course was my personal favorite. A lot of people like rolling




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oaks more, but that is a loose replica of Pine Valley.




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Did you hear that? Is that true? Maybe, like, some of the holes were




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templated the same. The whole big thing about Pine Valley is if you're on




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one hole, you don't see the next hole. And there was, like, some




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vibes of that out there. I also like pine barrens more. You did? Okay.




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Instead of rolling oaks. Yeah. People said that rolling oaks was.




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And this could be a rumor. I should probably dig into this here a little




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bit. But people had said that that course was a loose replica of




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Augusta. I think, once again, yes, some of the holes were




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templated the same. Yeah. I think pine barrens was




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really probably more of a pinehurst. Okay. With, like,




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the waste area and the blowout and the sand and the elevated greens. Yeah,




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exactly. So it's exactly what he just said. So in the waste




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areas, you could ground your club. Lots of waste areas. I'm




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talking about sand everywhere. And I spent a lot of time




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there. I mean, the waste areas,




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I kind of learned how to play out of them because you just find them




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there. But I do think that the




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layout for me, if I remember




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correctly, the clubhouse was a joke. Like, the clubhouse. Clubhouse was very




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1984. Right. Like, the experience was not. It's a public course. I mean, it




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was always a top 100. Yeah. Let's see. So Pine barons hosted




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a shell's wonderful World of




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golf. Yes, that's true. Tom Fazio, this is the guy.




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That great name, Tom Fozzie, gets a lot of




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hate. Why does he. What do you mean? Yeah, the Foz. Why does he get




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hate? Because it's, like very new school,




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what he builds. He kind of does his own thing. I'm okay with.




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I like Tom Fazio. Some of Tom Fazio courses are in




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my favorite courses. But Tom Fazio gets a lot of




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okay. Definitely from the architect.




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Like, bro, you know what gets? He's not a tillinghast




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or Alastair Mackenzie or Donald




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Ross. So he's going to get hated on. Pete Dye gets hated.




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I mean, you know, I'm looking here like, the people that his competitors were.




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Pete Dye, Jack Nicholas, and Arnold Palmer. How do you feel




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about architects that aren't. I mean, maybe this guy's just an amazing golfer, and I




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don't know about it. He probably is, but how do you feel about the




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golfers that are not pros, that are.




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Sorry. The architects that aren't pros. You prefer pro




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architects, or do you prefer. It doesn't matter to you?




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I mean, I think anybody's capable of making a good golf course. I think




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that the couple of courses that tiger has done have been really




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good, at least the ones that I played. I think that. Which ones does




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he have? He has blue Jack in Texas, which is sick. He




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has Paines Valley in Missouri.




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Terrible name. It's misery is the name. That's how I pronounce




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Missouri, because it's a miserable state. Sorry. Missouri. Wow.




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So all the Brooksville people are going to hate us. Missouri and Missouri




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and the whole state of Missouri. All right. No, he has. Yeah, tiger has some




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cool golf courses, for sure. I've never played




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a Jack Nicholas course and walked off and been like, that was




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sick. And then what did Arnold Palmer build? Was it Bay Hill? Is that.




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He has saddlebrook? Okay. Yeah, the Palmer course is




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Saddlebrook. No, there's. Arnold Palmer has some good golf courses. Honestly, I'm sure




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Jack does, too. Yeah, he probably does. Jack seems to make




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golf courses just super long. No, I think that the best




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architects were from the early, kind of the turn of the




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century, early 19th century. Your Alastair




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Mackenzie's, your. Aw. Tillinghast. Jimmy Donald Ross.




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What about Jimmy Demerit? Jimmy Demerit? I don't know that I've ever really




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played a Jimmy demerit. I grew up playing a




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Walter Hagen course in Billings, Montana. Okay. I




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like that one. He played a lot of golf. I would love to maybe do




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a deep dive on just, like, architects, because I know you know a lot about




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it. I just want to learn a little bit more about




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him. But all that being said,




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maybe one. Day have albatross national. Exactly.




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That is our ultimate goal. Our ultimate goal is to get enough subscribers, which I




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have no idea what the number would be, but it would be to get enough




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subscribers to where we can build our own golf course. And I think it's 18




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par fives. 18 par fives. All albatrosses. And the




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green slope towards the hole to make it pretty easy to get an albatross.




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Okay, so this may be the tie back to what I was just saying. So




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Joe Black, past president of the PGA of America,




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said, this is like having Pine Valley and Augusta




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plus the best practice facility in the world in the same




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location. That was his comment on world woods.




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That's a pretty crazy




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saying. It was one of my favorite places. I would not put it. I mean,




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I've never played Pine Valley. Everyone, maybe, like, when it opened. Yeah,




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I mean, I think that was definitely the vision for it. So that was worldwide.




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The tie back to that was. It was cool before. Exactly. It was cool before




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and it's cool now. And top 100, I mean, it was a top 100 public




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course. You could play. I mean, all the time. I don't think I ever saw




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it out of it. Yeah. And we need good public golf. That's right.




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We want less people to play golf. I thought me and you, but we want




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to shrink the game. But we do need more public golf. That's true. Okay.




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All right. I now work at a public facility, so I got to be pro




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public golf. Yeah. Shout out, by the way, just so everyone knows, I'm going to




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give a free plug here because they're certainly not spending




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the advertising dollars on us yet. But add to performance, why don't




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you tell the folks what you're doing down there at add to performance? Add




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to performance is now the world's hottest upstart golf




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academy. We're going to single handedly, day in and day




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out, create the next generation of




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elite golfers. Yeah. Here in Lando Lakes, Florida, home of John




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Cena. What




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is his. Does he do that? Does he do the. What did you just




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do? Did you do like his, like he plays when he comes




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out. I also love wrestling. If you want to have a wrestling episode. Did you




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go to the one in St. Pete? No. Did you want to kind of. Oh,




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dude, just tell me what I got you on there. So your media




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now. You could have got in Johnson.




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I always forget. I think it's so funny he lives here.




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I'm excited about the academy because I think you guys are doing some pretty cool




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things. That's actually owned and created by a friend




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of the show, Brad Brunery's part. And then also the kangaroo. The kangaroo,




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we call him. And then we also have shepherd. So




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friends of the show and everyone knows Shepard




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started as one of our co hosts and still heavily involved




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in the pod. So we're really excited about it. I think these guys are just




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going to absolutely kill it. And you, if you live in the Tampa area,




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in fact, if you don't live in the Tampa area, they even have ways that




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you can still get involved with their academy. So check them out. All right, so




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there's that. There's a free plug for. For you guys to build your academy.




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You guys are going to be jam packed now. You already are. Yeah. Worldwide got




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sold to Cabot about. In the Cabot family,




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I think about two years ago, maybe a year. And a half.




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And I've been so jazzed




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about this to the point to mean between us and Cabot.




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Please don't be mad at me about this. I've driven up to




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Brooksville a few times during this whole process where you




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guys were moving around tons of dirt and getting rid of a bunch of trees,




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moving and shaping the whole earth around there. I went up there a few times




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and just looked through the fence in awe. I could not wait for




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this place to open because, again, it was one of my favorite tracks, and it's




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just going to be spectacular. Everything I hear about Cabot, everything they're doing in Texas




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with their courses there that they're building, everything they've done mean, you




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name it. In fact, we're trying to plan a trip up to the Nova Scotia




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course. We just start what happened with our day. So we get there just




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chronologically. Yeah, exactly. Let's describe the day. So we




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get there. They were. Again, we were treated like media, so it was just phenomenal.




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We get there. Super nice people, by the way, canadian people.




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They're all from. The canadian people are just. They've got to be the nicest people




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on the planet. Like, name me another group of people that are nicer than




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Canadians. Yeah. You don't have one? No. I mean, I grew up in




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Montana, so we're cool with Canada.




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Are Montana people nicer than canadian people?




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No, Canadians really are pretty nice. Yeah.




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They fucking giving away health care and




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pills and maple syrup all the time. You can get maple syrup and pills. In




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Canada for free. It's included in your taxes.




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Okay, dude, that's. Well, like, people get, like, insulin from Canada because it's like,




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four. But.




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But I guess my point is the hospitality, the service was just




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like, we've been abandoned. I've been abandoned. I know you used to work,




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like, and I get it. People are spending a lot of money to go to




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these destination type courses, and you've got to just kill it on service.




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But right from the get go, I get into the guard




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gate, and even the lady to guard gate was, like, the nicest lady ever. Oh,




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dude. She's like, yes, exactly. And so we pull in a little chilly




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that day. We've got all this on our socials. We're going to be posting all




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this, and then I'll be flashing. We'll be editing in. If you hop on




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our YouTube, make sure to check out all the videos, because we




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did capture some pretty cool video of it. I flew a drone around, like I




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said, but we get in there and then we had dit Yama




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gear provided by Swanee's, which shout out




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to Swannie's, thanks for hooking us up on that. We get there and they're like,




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oh, why don't you walk in here? And we walked into their




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new. What would you call that? Like, golf




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pro shop. Was that the pro shop there that. They had us in, or what




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was that? No, where we walked in was just really like,




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merchandise house. They were like, selling headcovers and shirts. Dude, their




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merch is great. Like, this hat they gave. Merch is cool. They gave us hats.




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Give us hats. Towels. They give us a towel. Look at that thing, dude. And




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over here, look how big that towel is. That a regular sized towel? Yeah, it's




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like a caddy towel. Yeah. The logo is cool. So the logo is just kind




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of like an orange, but then it says cabot. Yeah. Let me get this




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on. Citrus. Citrus. Yeah. And I use




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this, so thank you, Cabot. When you get there. For anyone that's ever been to




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worldwoods in the property, it looks totally different in a couple of different ways. One,




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I'd say that the fact that they have the




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lodging already up, like, I knew they were going to be doing these really crazy




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lodges. We actually, as a group of buddies, we looked




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at investing in one. It was a little outside our price range,




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but it looked like they're going to be really nice. And I think that




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opens. And they're already going to open those in end of February, early




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March, she said. So I thought that was crazy. And they're popping




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them up all over. So they have that you pull in, you go to this




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little thing, they get us some cider. We start walking down to the range,




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and then, dude, my mind was absolutely




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had. What's cool about the range there in the practice facility?




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Keep in mind, you just heard that comment about the old PGA,




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dude, saying that it was like Augusta and Pine Valley with




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a world class practice facility. So, I mean, I don't




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know how you top that, but these guys, they're heading in that direction because




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all the lodges are like, at least they have a row of lodges that are




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right in front of or right behind




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the driving range and the driving range, which would




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be amazing for a guy's golf trip. Like, you have a guy's golf trip and




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you can literally walk out your cabin, go hit balls whenever you want. Oh, and




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by the way, it's not just like a regular driving




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range. Each bay or each. What would you call that?




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Okay. Each bay has a track man, an outdoor track, man.




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I've never seen an outdoor track, man. Have you? I've definitely seen an outdoor




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track, man. Yeah. I've never seen it done the way that they did it, where




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each individual little bay or stall has its own track, man. That's like, in




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a little case. Yes. That you can dick around with and hit balls. That was




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pretty cool. I've never seen that before. So what else is cool about it




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is at nighttime, you could have a guy's golf




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trip, and then if you wanted to go hit balls at 1030 at




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night under the lights, you could do that putt or putt.




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Here's the other thing. They have a short course, but wait, there's more. No, the




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short course. They have two short courses, I guess is what




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you'd call it. They have what's called the squeeze and. The




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wedge, in addition to putting course and




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218 hole courses. Correct.




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Let me just tell you a little bit about the squeeze. Squeeze offers nine holes




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that range from 100 yards to 550 yards. And




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architect Mike Nuso drew inspiration




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from the world's best short par fours to create a course that is full of




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fun and drama. That's the squeeze, the wedge,




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an eleven hole. Why? Have you ever heard of an eleven hole course? I've never




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heard of that. Yeah. If it's like a short course, okay. The preserve,




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abandoned, is 13. Okay, I've seen. Yeah. That's the only thing I could really compare




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it to. So the wedge eleven hole par three course that offers




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vast waste areas, greens with dramatic slopes, and lots of




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varied lies. Golfers will encounter some of the cabot citrus farm's most




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interesting design features at the Wedge and lights




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located throughout the course. So this is the lit one. Let me just paint a




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picture here for you folks. Imagine




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coordinating the most ridiculous guys golf trip ever.




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You probably have a couple of yoyos in your group that are going to make




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the trip really fun. You can't wait. You've been waiting all




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year for this ditcom. And so you get there now, you guys get. You get




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lucky. They put you in one of the lodges that's right next to this




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amazing driving range that has track men right outside your




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door. Now, your two knuckleheads that you brought with you, you're worried about them knocking




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one over, breaking one. That's the only thing we had to worry about. But other




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than that, you're so stoked. Then you play the most amazing golf ever, which we'll




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get into the courses here in just a second. But then you're like, I want




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more? So you could do that at the squeeze while there's light.




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Or you could, even if you're really a degenerate and you still need more




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time, you could go play the wedge at nighttime, which I think is kind of




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cool. Have you played night golf ever?




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Kind of, yeah. I see stuff on instagram all the time. I'm like, dude, they




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should totally. I've done it on lit golf courses. I've never done it




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with the ball that glows. It's just pitch black. That seems. Could that




00:19:01

frustrating. Yeah, I don't think. Oh, no, they do that. No, but




00:19:05

I've heard it can crack your cloth. You got to be careful with those because




00:19:08

they can crack your clothes, by. The way, though, the speed you




00:19:11

produce, that flip hook. Yeah.




00:19:15

You're my coach. Don't tell people that you're trying to sell an academy here,




00:19:18

dude.




00:19:23

That's interesting because this is real quick here. That's not




00:19:27

the same guy as what. We were talking about. That's the other. So that's Newso,




00:19:30

and then that guy's Kyle something. Okay. Got you. Yeah, Kyle.




00:19:34

Okay. So. Really? Okay. So let's talk about two. There's actually




00:19:37

two course designers, right? We have our main




00:19:41

man, Nuzo, which I didn't get an opportunity to meet Newso. His name is




00:19:45

Mike. We should probably call him Mr. Newso. I don't really know him on a




00:19:48

first name basis. So Mike Newso, he actually is the guy that led a lot




00:19:52

of the short course and practice facilities. He's also heavily




00:19:55

involved in what we think is the putting. The 21, which I think is the




00:19:58

putting course. And then he's got a goal




00:20:02

of creating. This is his tagline. I just want to make sure people get a




00:20:05

good feel of what we're talking about here. His goal of creating enjoyable courses




00:20:09

that inspire people to play. All right. He




00:20:13

also has the number. You'd appreciate this. He's also the designer of




00:20:16

Wolfpoint club in Port Lavica. That's probably not the




00:20:20

right way to say that. You probably know better. Me in Texas. Have you ever




00:20:23

heard of that? The number one golf course in Texas?




00:20:27

What? The number one golf course in Texas. It's called




00:20:31

World Point Club in Port




00:20:34

Lavaca. Lavaca. Lavaca sounds better, right?




00:20:38

Yeah. I'm going to have to fact check that, because I didn't.




00:20:41

You didn't know that? We'll circle back to that. Okay. We'll circle back around to




00:20:44

that. Yeah. So, anyway, I thought that was it. But then




00:20:48

the other gentleman, which we did get a chance to talk to really nice guy




00:20:51

Kyle Franz. Let me just say that




00:20:55

again. Kyle Franz. Kyle Franz. Now he's leading the renovation of Cabot




00:20:58

Barons. And that's really pine barons.




00:21:03

That we played. Yeah, that we played. And we'll get more into that. So that's




00:21:06

actually going to be called. Let me pull up the rue. The




00:21:10

rue. That's the rue course. How do




00:21:14

you think they came up with the names for these? I don't know. You could




00:21:16

have asked him. I didn't get a chance. Well, they did actually have a CEO




00:21:20

there, like I mentioned, and really nice guy. He just had




00:21:23

a lot of actual media around. Like, they were




00:21:27

newspapers and stuff, asking questions. I could have probably found that out. He's probably told




00:21:30

people. So, anyway, I guess my point is




00:21:34

that the practice facilities




00:21:38

are just going to be unreal. And then the fact that they're lit up, I




00:21:42

love. All right, so now let's get into. So, once we hit




00:21:45

golf balls, we're feeling good, by the way. They had an entire spread there with,




00:21:49

like, I'm talking about muffins. We had, like,




00:21:52

continental bread, but, I mean, it's a different level. You got more cider. You're all




00:21:55

hopped up on the cider. You loved it. And then they




00:21:59

had. When I say, like, parfait, it was like




00:22:02

granola. You had fruit. You had the whole deal, and it was like, take what




00:22:05

you want. Just go take it. Everything was. Yeah, we didn't pay shit.




00:22:09

Didn't pay shit. They were super nice. Generous. Okay, so now




00:22:13

we're all hopped up on the cider. We've hit balls in the track,




00:22:17

man. Our stats are off the chart. I'm




00:22:20

cracking golf balls with the lit golf. There's no, like, lit golf




00:22:24

balls. I don't think. I think they just left, of course. So now we're ready




00:22:27

to go play. And they were like, okay, it's a shotgun deal. And




00:22:30

we started on hole 18. We were 18.




00:22:34

A. 18 a on Yama is not a b group kind of




00:22:38

group. Nah, dude, we're a group specifically.




00:22:42

Now, this is important because I want to describe the dit Yama




00:22:45

foursome we had. We had quite the forsome shout out to Kangaroo, because




00:22:49

kangaroo, actually, I think, in my opinion, was the all star of this trip,




00:22:53

because he actually took a backseat. And that never happens for friends of the show.




00:22:57

But he did it because we had a very




00:23:00

special late ad. Mr. Jerry




00:23:04

Carey. Now, anyone that's in golf, like, social




00:23:08

world, like, if the social media stuff or the content creators. Dude,




00:23:11

this guy, Jerry Carey, first of all, super nice




00:23:15

guy. I reached out to him. I told him we were playing cabot. He wanted




00:23:19

to come play and check it out. He's from Canada, the




00:23:23

western side, British Columbia area, I think. And he was like, oh,




00:23:26

my God, if you guys are playing that new cabot course I want guy to




00:23:29

play like I want to play. And I was like, all right, I've already got




00:23:32

to force him. Let me just talk to Brad Bruner. Brad Brunner,




00:23:35

Kangaroo resident tour pro of.




00:23:40

You know, big hand in this academy that these guys are doing and just a




00:23:43

super nice guy. And Brad was like, and it was great




00:23:47

because actually what happened? Shepard, our




00:23:51

other co host, he said, oh, yeah. Like, I can't believe you do




00:23:54

that to. I can't believe you'd ask Brad to take a seat. Like,




00:23:58

he's not even going to want to, man. Like, why would you do that after




00:24:00

you've already invited him to play? I felt like a complete jerk. I'm like, he's




00:24:04

totally right. I'm sorry. And




00:24:08

I called Brad and I'm like, look, man, I apologize.




00:24:12

And he said, dude, who fucking cares? I'm going to go play




00:24:15

like Cabot. First of all, that's amazing. And he was like, I'm going to go




00:24:18

play a couple random people that I'll meet. That's fine. Who cares?




00:24:22

So it's just know, throwing more shade at your boy being




00:24:26

here, it's fine. But it was great. So he's the MVP, but




00:24:30

Jerry Carey joined the foursome with shepherd and




00:24:33

Panda and myself. We teed off on,




00:24:38

I mean, right from the beginning. So the couple of things I noticed right away.




00:24:42

So we'll get more into this here in a second. We interviewed the architect. We




00:24:45

interviewed Kyle. Yeah, Kyle Franz. We interviewed him after




00:24:49

and he said some really insightful things, which I wish I would have talked to




00:24:52

him before because I would have played the course a little different and it would




00:24:54

have been cool to kind of see his vision for it beforehand. I was trying




00:24:58

to remember it after the fact. I will say the thing that was really




00:25:02

interesting is the trees. Like, if you played worldwoods in the




00:25:05

past, pine barrens especially, there's lots of trees everywhere.




00:25:09

Lots of pine trees, lots of vegetation. Now, I know these guys are still built.




00:25:12

This is a preview play. So this course hasn't been final.




00:25:16

Like, it's going to just get better and better and better. Of course, still spectacular,




00:25:20

but it's going to get better. The first thing you notice, or at least I




00:25:24

notice, is that trees are gone.




00:25:28

There are some trees. They kept, I guess, the really healthy and the beautiful ones.




00:25:32

But like the ones that you have to hit around. Right on 14.




00:25:35

Exactly. I don't think that they got rid of close. He said something like




00:25:39

5000 trees, but I don't think they were critical




00:25:43

to the experience. And I think the other reason he said that was because




00:25:47

he was trying to open it up for a couple of things. One,




00:25:51

obviously, this is sort of the trend with a lot of these courses. Streamstong is




00:25:54

very much like this. I don't know. Stream song had trees there in the beginning,




00:25:58

but they're also trying to let through a lot more wind. So it was




00:26:01

extremely. I don't know if it was just the day or if what he was




00:26:04

saying. I'm sure it had something to do with it. Dude, the wind was crazy.




00:26:08

Like, the wind was actually really crazy. There's no trees to block it. And that




00:26:11

is one thing. When you'd play in the summer at pine barrens, or even




00:26:15

rolling oaks for that matter, it was just stagnant because there was no




00:26:18

airflow through there. So that's the one thing they wanted to change. The other thing




00:26:21

he mentioned is just that he wanted the experience to be more of




00:26:25

a. He wanted the distance between tea




00:26:29

boxes to be a lot shorter, a lot easier and just a better experience. And




00:26:32

I think they accomplished that really nicely. I think that was just one




00:26:36

thing I observed. But those were my initial. When I first




00:26:40

got out there, I'm like, it looks completely different.




00:26:44

It's a new course, so that would be my. Any other




00:26:48

observations on your initial thoughts when you first got out there? What was going through




00:26:52

your head? Caddy. We had a caddy. We did have a caddy. So




00:26:56

you can take a caddy initially.




00:26:59

Yeah. I mean, that's the thing that you notice is it's like way more open.




00:27:05

Like a band in that isn't trails. Or like a




00:27:08

scottish course or a stream song. I think a stream




00:27:12

song is like a good comparison. I think that




00:27:16

it's a stream song kind of feel. Which one?




00:27:21

I guess black is it? So it's a link. You're saying it's like a links




00:27:25

course? I don't like using that word when it's not an actual links




00:27:28

course. That is actually one of my big frustrating things.




00:27:32

All right, sorry. It has to. A links course links the




00:27:36

land to the sea. There's no sea there. Is that what that means? That




00:27:40

is what that means. Wow.




00:27:44

So when there's no actual ocean. I hate when




00:27:48

people say links. I had no idea that's what that meant.




00:27:51

I thought why they put road bunkers in middle of nowhere




00:27:55

Florida anyway, to me it felt like,




00:27:58

okay, that makes total sense now. You can say it's kind of. Yeah, Linksy.




00:28:02

There's a lack of trees. It's very windy. There's sandy areas.




00:28:06

But yeah, to say links is




00:28:10

actual. Yeah, that's a panda. No, no. Okay. No bamboo for




00:28:14

you. Good to then. So then we




00:28:17

start playing. I mean, I think being with




00:28:21

of, I was really interested to see how good Jerry Carey was.




00:28:25

He's got literally tens of millions of




00:28:29

TikTok views. He does this thing. For those of you who don't know, he does




00:28:32

this amazing thing. I'll put a link here. And all the stuff that we do.




00:28:35

He does this amazing thing where he walks to someone randomly in a parking lot




00:28:39

in like a random country club. He did Carawood, by the way. Carowood. Yeah.




00:28:42

And he's like, hey. He says, oh, this




00:28:46

guy's going to be perfect. And he walks up to him and he's like, oh,




00:28:49

can I caddy for you today? And these are just random.




00:28:53

Typically these are higher handicap. Like the guy got a. Carol was like a 27




00:28:56

handicap. And they're like, they've never had caddies in their life. They don't even know




00:28:59

what they are. And he's like, come on. What if I get you a par




00:29:02

today? I'll give you a new pair of italian golf shoes or




00:29:06

like something crazy. And they're like, okay. And then he learns




00:29:09

their story on the walk, which I love. I mean, it's a great concept gone




00:29:13

viral. Tens of millions of views nice enough to join us.




00:29:17

And I was really curious to see how good of a golfer he was. Pretty




00:29:19

good. I mean, he could get around like the know. I don't know what his




00:29:22

handicap was, but he was good. He scraped it around. He scraped




00:29:26

it around. I mean, it was a tough course, like for probably Jerry for.




00:29:30

We made Jerry play the backs. We did. We didn't play the




00:29:33

backs, but we played pretty. We played the one ups. We




00:29:37

did. Yeah. We went on one up for him. We played the one ups. They




00:29:39

were like, you should play the tangerine. We like, nah,




00:29:43

plays the one ups. That's funny. So they have different types of citrus




00:29:46

for the tea. Well, they had specific




00:29:50

oranges on the tea box and I think




00:29:53

literally everybody else played from like 5500 farms




00:29:57

and we played from like 6800. And it was still. And Brad




00:30:01

played from like 74. Yeah. So Brad Bruner again, previous pro,




00:30:05

he walked off the course with the course record. Did he tell you that? No,




00:30:07

they gave it to him. No, because he didn't finish because we had




00:30:11

practice. Well, then he didn't get the course record. What do you mean? If he




00:30:14

would have pared out, he would have had it. Oh, well, he didn't part out,




00:30:17

though, right? We can't give that. Well, come on. What are you talking about? You




00:30:20

know what really drives. If that drives you nuts about links. You know what really




00:30:23

drives me nuts are when people try. You think he couldn't have course records 17




00:30:27

and 18? I mean, could he? Sure. Did he?




00:30:30

No, I think it was just 17. Because we




00:30:33

started 17. He left. He had to play one hole. Yeah, one hole. Which I




00:30:36

cannot believe he's saying. The Caddy wanted him to say. He's like, nah, why wouldn't




00:30:39

he? I mean, I don't. Because we had practice. I left, too. Yeah. Boy, you




00:30:43

could have helped practice together for him a little bit.




00:30:49

Well, dude, he left before I did. Listen, I mean, I played 18 holes. I




00:30:52

get the course record. Dude, it's been open for. It's not even open. This is




00:30:55

a preview play. So of course he's going to get the course record. He even




00:30:57

said, you're not going to witness the course record, which I guess no one did




00:31:01

because he didn't get it because he stopped early. Okay, we'll just go back. Yeah,




00:31:05

exactly, Cabot, we'd love to. Hey, we need to go get that.




00:31:08

Course free on Wednesday. We're free on Wednesday. We can probably make Thursday next.




00:31:12

Anyway, we'll send you our dates when we're available for this. Again, we can't wait




00:31:16

to get but that. No, I think that's a really good




00:31:19

point. Know, with Jerry, he did kind of tough it out with this. And




00:31:23

I thought he kind of held his own. Jerry also, by the way, got closest




00:31:26

to the pin on one of the holes, which was the most ridiculous.




00:31:30

Yeah. If you remember, it was not a very well struck.




00:31:34

No, but I have a theory on that. I have a theory on that. Like




00:31:37

hole in ones and shit like that happens from




00:31:41

not always super great golf shots. Oh, totally. Because you got




00:31:45

to get it like. Running like a putt sometimes to go in. And so, yeah,




00:31:48

it's like Jerry hit one to a foot on a




00:31:52

190 1 yd par three that carried 108




00:31:55

yards. Now, here's the other thing. He let his girlfriend shout out to




00:31:59

Carol. She was with her. She was with him, and she was awesome. They're




00:32:03

both super nice and great. Again, canadian people.




00:32:07

She knocked in this putt. That was amazing. All right, so then we have Jerry




00:32:11

Carrey, and then as we're kind of making our. And there are holes out there,




00:32:15

I will say for Pine barons, if you remember, there are a lot of holes




00:32:18

that, look, you can kind of tell that those are absolutely the




00:32:21

same holes that were there. That was what Shepard was




00:32:25

very like. I don't know. He was like, they're all




00:32:29

different. I was like, no, they're not. No, not at. Like, a lot of them




00:32:33

are not the same, but




00:32:36

they're the same. Right. They're super,




00:32:41

Kyle. But they left the cool holes. Exactly. I thought Kyle did a really good




00:32:45

job with. I'll put excerpts of the interview we




00:32:49

had with him on the podcast here. I'll mix some of these in. But I




00:32:51

thought he did a really good job keeping the




00:32:55

essence of a lot of those marquee holes. Like, at least I say




00:32:58

marquee. They were my favorite. They were the ones that I remembered the most. So




00:33:02

you had mentioned the wide world or the shells world




00:33:05

of what the fuck they call. I think it's wonderful world of golf. Wonderful world




00:33:09

of golf. It's like 2002 or three. I tried to watch




00:33:13

it. It was Phil and somebody. It was Phil and Tom's, I believe.




00:33:16

I don't know if that's right. Yeah, we got to find that. Yeah, we got




00:33:19

fat. Check that. But it was awesome




00:33:23

because I just remember there's one hole in




00:33:26

particular which we can just talk about now. So number




00:33:30

15 is my favorite. Yeah. 15 is the




00:33:33

short guy. Yeah. Again, for all of




00:33:37

our Tampa people or anyone that's played worldwoods in the past. Awesome hole you get




00:33:41

up there, depending on what your tea box looks like, depending on where you're playing.




00:33:44

If you're playing the dit Yama stick or you're playing the dit Yama teas. What




00:33:48

kind of citrus was it? All the tangerines. The tangerine. The way ups




00:33:52

tangerines is probably like a part three. Yeah. Tangerines are. We played it from




00:33:55

258, I remember. Was that it? We played it from




00:33:59

258. And there's only one tea box back. Yeah. Adjusted




00:34:03

258. Yes. I'm going to put this in the




00:34:06

YouTube. Please subscribe to our YouTube because




00:34:11

I'm going to put a picture of the hole. And it's




00:34:15

just so cool the way it is because, again, we're in the middle of nowhere.




00:34:18

Brooksville. It's just all waste area world




00:34:22

was always. But. But he kept a lot of the essence of that hole, and




00:34:26

it's an elevated t box. And then you can go left, you can lay




00:34:29

up left, and then it's a real easy approach. Again, real short hole.




00:34:33

Or you can take the right version and you got to clear.




00:34:37

Now, before I remember worldwoods, you actually had to clear some water and




00:34:40

stuff. Was there water there this time? I can't remember. I




00:34:44

don't think that in the current iteration there's any water. Yeah, I think,




00:34:48

yeah, it used to be a little bit more challenging if you took




00:34:52

it right. Basically, you can hit, like, a short iron




00:34:55

way left, and then flip a wedge. Or you can physically




00:34:59

try to drive the green. You can't miss right. That's kind of what you




00:35:02

did. You're in the weeds. If you miss right of




00:35:06

anything, you can kind of miss Long, but you definitely can't miss right.




00:35:10

So if you take the green on, you've got to physically land the ball, like,




00:35:13

basically on the green or just long. Yeah. If you do, then it's like




00:35:17

you make birdie. Yeah. That was one




00:35:21

where you and shepherd were just a little, like a hair short of the green,




00:35:24

which, I mean. Again, it was high, flew the flag, and lipped out




00:35:28

for eagle. Oh, you did? So you were on the other side of the green.




00:35:31

Or wait, I thought you were short of the. I hit the top ten shot




00:35:35

of my entire life, so thank you for remembering it. I was too busy finding




00:35:38

mine over on the right hand side when this. We have video of yours, though,




00:35:41

and you saying, that's not drawing. That's true. I do have that. All right,




00:35:44

I'll put that up on the YouTube, too. It was funny. Yeah. And you're like,




00:35:47

well, it's kind of drawing. And then it tried. It went way right, but no.




00:35:51

And then I flipped a little mean. I got a par on. Yeah, you




00:35:54

saved. I. But




00:35:58

Shepard was short. Okay, so you hit the most amazing shot in your life. Almost




00:36:01

went in, and you got an eagle. That's right. I do remember your eagle now.




00:36:04

That's right. I leapt out for eagle. I just remember abatrosses more than.




00:36:08

Yeah, okay. But that is a really fun hole.




00:36:12

And he kept a lot of the essence there. Yeah. I vividly




00:36:15

remember playing there before and hearing




00:36:19

the last time I played it, I knew that it was going to be sold




00:36:23

and it was going to get redesigned, and I was like, I hope that they




00:36:26

keep this hole the same. They made it




00:36:29

different, but not worse. They made it better, and it's still there,




00:36:33

so that makes me happy. Yeah. And then the one before that one, actually,




00:36:37

14 is pretty cool because that's a




00:36:41

par five. You can go left or right. I




00:36:44

always went right. So, like, you hit a drive and then you can actually go




00:36:47

up the right side and you have an elevated shot into




00:36:51

the green. Like a really cool green there. Almost like a postage stamp




00:36:55

or like what most people do, and I know you guys did. You can go




00:36:59

left, and that's probably even an easier shot. I




00:37:03

was just all over the place off the tee, so I had to. Play that




00:37:05

right side. But anyway. But anyway, that's also a cool hole. And I felt like




00:37:08

that looked a lot different just because of the lack of trees, but it was




00:37:12

still the same. You played it the same and that was fun. So that's cool.




00:37:15

So the other one that I'll call out is 16. So that was




00:37:19

your favorite one, right? Par three. Yes. 16 has probably




00:37:23

the wildest green that I've ever seen on a golf




00:37:27

course. I kind of agree.




00:37:30

It has a bowl that kind of funnels everything




00:37:34

towards it. So if you use the




00:37:38

backstop and play the bowl correctly, at least where the pin was, you




00:37:42

have a 1ft putt for Birdie like I did. And if you don't




00:37:45

hit that exact spot, you make a seven




00:37:49

like you and Shepard did. And there's really no in between.




00:37:53

Yeah, because. Exactly. I mean, I hit some bad putts.




00:37:57

Think. But you're right. You also had some good putts, though. That's




00:38:00

just tough. If you're standing in the




00:38:03

middle of that bowl, what is the shelf? The shelf




00:38:07

is at least 4ft tall.




00:38:11

Four and a half feet around you. Like, all around you. I've never




00:38:14

seen. Well, I wonder. They're not always going to put that. They're always not going




00:38:18

to put the flag there. No, but it doesn't. Yeah, that's okay.




00:38:22

If they put it above it, you still have to deal with it. No,




00:38:26

totally. I think it can work out to your benefit. They had a hole in




00:38:29

one on that hole. They did. Because. I think it can work out to your




00:38:32

benefit. Because if you get anywhere near there and you land right, then you can




00:38:35

go around the bowl and it'll kind of feed it down. And who knows? They




00:38:38

had a clown face on it, too. And a windmill. No, they didn't. They should




00:38:42

have some of that. But I think it's kind of cool.




00:38:46

I don't like the gimmicky stuff, and that is a little gimmicky, I will




00:38:50

say. But I also think you can play it and they can position the




00:38:54

flag where it's just a really. I don't mind it.




00:38:58

I'm not ascribing. It's not really like a gimmicky thing where it's like. I don't




00:39:01

enjoy playing it. It's actually kind of interesting and fun. It kind of reminds me




00:39:05

of a very small version. It'd be like a micro




00:39:08

version of streamsong black number nine, where you have that huge




00:39:12

bowl and all that kind of funnels down. It's like that just




00:39:16

shrunk down to like a micro machine level. Yeah. The green itself is not




00:39:19

that massive, but the bowl that you




00:39:23

have to deal with is pretty severe. There was another par




00:39:28

three, though, on the beginning front that has




00:39:31

like a. That's like a baritz hole. That's a template that a lot of people




00:39:35

use. Yeah, well, that par three




00:39:39

number, man, I wish I knew the numbers here.




00:39:44

I don't know the number, but par. Three, so it's like six, seven,




00:39:48

eight or something. Yeah, it's exactly. It's one of those. And I remember




00:39:51

that one actually looks very similar to the old hole, except,




00:39:55

again, the trees and surrounding area look different. But I love




00:39:59

that par three on the original pine barrens because you'd go over




00:40:02

what had that really cool lake in the front of it, and then you can




00:40:06

actually hit it on the right side and it would funnel everything down the left.




00:40:09

So I thought that still. You could still see a lot of that in that




00:40:12

hole. It was a little different. It was shaped a little different, but that was




00:40:15

still a cool hole. I didn't play very well in that




00:40:19

one. Who has the most templates? Does




00:40:22

Palmer have a template that everyone follows? So it's just CB?




00:40:26

No, it's not just CB, but there's. All sorts of




00:40:30

McAllister or what's his name?




00:40:34

Alistair McKenzie. Yeah, I mean, he has some




00:40:37

stuff that people definitely are going to copy, for sure, because he's really good,




00:40:41

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doing the segment. It's been slow rolling to try to get going. We just got




00:40:59

so much other stuff going on. But I've got like three or four of these




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going to promote something. Now. We may review stuff that I don't necessarily believe in.




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Give you my. Well, I think we should rank all the. Yeah, I think you




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should get a panda pass fail. Oh, I like that. Yeah. Okay. All right, let's




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point here is you get to see where your club is making impact into




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00:42:07

albatross. All right. So then the other thing that we




00:42:11

had was the halfway house. Those are




00:42:15

sick. Yeah. So mid round, he passed it a couple of times. We passed it




00:42:18

at least twice. Like on the front. On the back. Yeah, they have this amazing.




00:42:22

I mean, it kind of looks a lot like the lodges that they're building, but




00:42:24

it's all, like, modern. I don't even know what you call it. Like modern farmhousey.




00:42:28

Kind of like really well done. Like, you go inside side, and it's like, oh,




00:42:30

shit. They had beers that we'd never seen before. They had this one creamsicle




00:42:34

beer. I wish I could give a shout out to the




00:42:37

brewery. I mean, it was a local brewery.




00:42:41

Maybe I'll try to put that in our comments, too, so they can sponsor us.




00:42:44

But it was delicious. I kept going back to them, like, hey, do you have




00:42:46

any more? And they're like, no, we don't have any more of those. No, you




00:42:48

drank them all. Yeah, we're giving you everything else. Please leave us alone. They gave




00:42:52

us sandwiches. It was barbecue. Was incredible. Well, that. The other thing. So the




00:42:56

food at the turn, it wasn't like your typical, like, I think




00:42:59

Carol would shout out the concert. You go in there




00:43:03

and they're like, oh, yeah, no, we got this hot dog that's been spinning for




00:43:06

three days. That'd be good for you. And then the bread's got mold on it,




00:43:09

but whatever. Shout out concert. We love you. Thanks for having us. But




00:43:12

no, it's like, no, I was actually there. They did have hot dogs. They were




00:43:16

hot dogs? Yeah. Like, really good ones. And then the guy goes,




00:43:19

oh, yeah. Or you could do our barbecue sandwich. And by the way, this barbecue




00:43:22

has been, like, slow roasted or whatever they smoked for the last two days. It




00:43:26

was incredible. And we went in and talked to the guy,




00:43:29

and just the service and the food and everything was just phenomenal. So that's going




00:43:33

to be great. So then after that,




00:43:40

the rest of the course, just in general, I thought,




00:43:45

it's still really early. A lot of the vegetation needs to still grow in,




00:43:49

like, the stuff that they just planted. And it's going to be




00:43:52

spectacular.




00:43:56

And then I think it's going to be an amazing. For a




00:43:59

guy's golf trip, it's going to be whoever,




00:44:03

listen to this. If you don't live in the area and you're trying to look




00:44:06

for a good guy's golf trip, especially if it's easier for you to get to




00:44:09

here in Florida, dude, this should be at the top of your list, in my




00:44:12

opinion. This should be definitely up. If you're. If you're




00:44:16

looking to travel, for sure. I mean, you can




00:44:19

make a pretty sick week of fly




00:44:23

into Tampa. Fly into. Yeah. You can hit Cabot. You can hit




00:44:27

streamsong and then probably go back to Orlando because




00:44:31

Orlando is better golf than Tampa, but you can hit a lot of sick places,




00:44:34

for sure. Yeah. Where would you go in Orlando? Where would you go play golf




00:44:38

in Orlando? Yeah, you specifically. I like the,




00:44:42

like, I do like the Waldorf. I mean, Orange County national is.




00:44:47

I mean, and by the way, if you guys would have us out there, I




00:44:50

could easily edit this out. They had a live event. Well, they did.




00:44:54

But to me, I've played Orange County. I used to live in Orlando.




00:44:57

Shout out College park. Shout out all my I four cup guys.




00:45:02

I love a lot of courses in Orlando. The Orange County national, to me,




00:45:06

was hit or miss on.




00:45:10

Not quality, but the condition. It's a




00:45:14

factory. It is a factory. They have a lot of play out there. They play




00:45:17

a fuck ton of golf. And they've had Q school out there a bunch. I




00:45:20

know. I mean, it's a great track. I don't know. I'm not trying to




00:45:24

knock them because their tracks are awesome out there. With Panther,




00:45:28

what do they have? Panther. Oh, crooked cat. Crooked cat.




00:45:32

Yeah. Crooked cat. Yeah. The Waldorf's good.




00:45:36

There's like the four Seasons. There's a Ritz course. There's lots of good golf




00:45:39

in Orlando. There's a ton of amazing. The private courses in Orlando are amazing.




00:45:43

Like, you got Lake Nona, you got. Some of the private courses are just.




00:45:47

Yeah, so, I mean, I think all in all, it was just an incredible experience.




00:45:50

So then afterwards, they had an amazing food truck




00:45:54

situation. So their food trucks are great. They had all kinds of different




00:45:57

brewery, craft beers, really




00:46:00

eclectic stuff, like cornhole. It's just a really fun




00:46:04

vibe. Like a really fun, down to earth. I don't think that was just for




00:46:08

media day. They're going to have those food trucks there. They're going to be




00:46:11

there for the guests there, which is awesome.




00:46:16

And then that's right next to the short courses. So then that's kind of leads




00:46:20

you right out there. I think the rate for the course that we played.




00:46:23

Isn't that insane either? Well,




00:46:27

yeah, I think it's like 160 right now, but I think that could be because




00:46:30

it's so new. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe not. I hope they kind of




00:46:34

keep it closer to that. Yeah, I don't ever like




00:46:37

$500 golf courses. No. I mean, no, not at all. And




00:46:41

hopefully we'll have some resident rates. But I think for me,




00:46:45

the overall consensus is just. I




00:46:49

think it's got some growing in to do. But you can




00:46:52

tell it's going to be absolutely spectacular. You can tell to me, in




00:46:56

my opinion, I think it's going to be better than streamsong. Very




00:47:00

comparable. I love stream song. I'm not a huge. I'll just say




00:47:04

it. Streamsong. You haven't had us out. Cabot did. That's true. Have us out,




00:47:08

dude. Change my mind. But I've played black a dozen times and it's. Black's my




00:47:11

least favorite, though. Yeah, me too. I love red and blue. Why do you keep




00:47:14

playing it, then? Well, I mean, I'll still play. No,




00:47:18

no, it's still a great chorus. I'm just saying for the expensive, that's




00:47:22

usually an expensive know. And I don't like. I don't




00:47:26

like spending a lot of money, but I mean, if I'm going to spend a




00:47:28

lot of money, then I'd rather play blue or red, honestly. And I'm usually playing




00:47:32

it in the summer to kind of save a little bit of money. And it




00:47:34

just gets so hot out there. It is. And that's a




00:47:39

man, like, you're beat to shit after that. And then you're like, you get in




00:47:43

your car and you're like, God damn, I got to drive back to Tampa.




00:47:46

Yes. It's not easy to get to. It's so much easier to get to




00:47:51

know. I do have to pay the caddy, though. You do. Because of PGA. I




00:47:55

don't pay old memorial. I don't pay streamsong. I don't pay anywhere.




00:47:58

It's crazy, dude, get your shit done. I just need to get my shit




00:48:02

together. What would it take? What would you take? Someone like me, you know




00:48:06

where my swings at? I'm a five, like a four and




00:48:10

a half. What would it take for me?




00:48:15

Tell me the exact process. For me to get my PGA card. You got to




00:48:18

pass a pat, which is you got to shoot, like,




00:48:21

7777-7878 it depends on the course




00:48:25

in the same day. That's the one. Kind of got to play five rounds in




00:48:29

one day. What are you talking about? No, you got to pay 36 holes in




00:48:31

a day. It's 15 above the slope or the course.




00:48:35

Dude, I could totally do that. Then what? I take a test or, like, three




00:48:38

years of bookwork. They stagger so that you




00:48:42

can't just, like, I'll just do it on a weekend. Like, you have to do




00:48:45

it. Go to a seminar. Do it. Go to a seminar. Do it. Go to




00:48:48

a seminar. But I could do. Yeah, it's open to everybody. Yeah.




00:48:52

Anybody with checkbook. Dude, that could be a really good hook for




00:48:55

the show. Is like, Brandon becomes a PGA of America




00:48:59

member. Yeah, take. Take. You guys on a journey. I got two kids. Can




00:49:03

a regular guy get his PGA card? What do you call




00:49:06

that? PGA professional? Just say, be a PGA of America member.




00:49:10

Okay, PGA of America. You do get a physical card, but I always feel like




00:49:13

card insinuates like I'm a tour player, which,




00:49:17

yeah, if I'm drunk enough, then, yeah, I am. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, if you're




00:49:20

drunk enough. Dude, when I tell people about you on the show, I'm like, yeah,




00:49:23

I want my co host. He's a PGA tour card. That happens




00:49:27

all the time when you're like, yeah, PGA member. They're like, you play with




00:49:30

Rory, and. It'S like, yeah, dude, all the time. How many high noons have I




00:49:33

had? Yeah, I've had, like, ten. And I'm like, yeah, and he's sick.




00:49:37

Yeah, I love Rory. He's a different level than us,




00:49:40

but, I mean, we're all kind of, like, we're all good golfers. No, I fix




00:49:43

slices, bro. Yeah, you're slice fixer. And then would I actually be




00:49:47

able to go give lessons? Yeah, shut the fuck. I mean, if




00:49:50

somewhere hires you, you can play free golf for damn near forever. That's




00:49:54

all I could. So I could do that. Yeah. All right. The only




00:49:58

place I've paid money to play golf in in the last, like, five years is




00:50:02

Carolwood. No way, dude. Because I pay a membership, dude. But




00:50:05

it's a discounted membership. Hopefully I didn't pay an initiation. Oh, that's




00:50:09

good. All right. All right. So that




00:50:13

shout out concert. Shout out concert. Dude, I got to be honest with you,




00:50:16

man. I still pay them monthly, though. Anyway, we'll do




00:50:20

another episode on my thoughts on concert. We should review




00:50:24

all the concerts. There's actually a lot of courses now.




00:50:27

Yeah, there are. I think we can play them for




00:50:31

free ish. It's 25. You pay the cart fee so it's included. Oh, yeah. We




00:50:34

should do that for sure. Yeah, we played the one in Amelia.




00:50:38

We played the one in a couple of them,




00:50:42

like near Ponte. Pontavidra. Thank you. Yeah, you don't like




00:50:45

that one, do you? Well, I don't like saying that word. I can't say




00:50:49

that sounds go.




00:50:53

So. Yeah, man, I think overall, thanks for having us.




00:50:57

Thanks for having us, Cabot. It was really a special day.




00:51:01

You guys got a lot of special things going on there. We'd love to go




00:51:05

have us at some of these other courses, dude. We'd love to go check out




00:51:07

some of these. Mean we're going to plan a trip out there anyway. Yeah, we'll




00:51:11

make you a deal, everybody. If you pay for us, we'll come




00:51:14

to. We don't have to pay. We'll come review your golf course. You don't have




00:51:18

to pay anything. And we'll make a podcast about it. We will do a whole




00:51:20

entire podcast like we just did here. And you don't really even have to treat




00:51:23

us all that. You can leave us alone. Just give us a tea time. Yeah,




00:51:27

we'd like us to the first tea. What's the course record? I think cabbage




00:51:30

got a really good model for people to follow with the free towel, the




00:51:34

breakfast spread, the interview with the architect, actor,




00:51:38

the ball marker. And then Jerry Carey coming




00:51:41

in thought, well, they didn't have anything to do with that.




00:51:45

That was us. That was all us. All right. Shout out Jerry Carey. Shout out




00:51:49

to Carol, Jerry's companion. She was




00:51:53

awesome. Shout out to kangaroo. Thanks again for taking the backseat to




00:51:56

Jerry. And thanks, Shepard, for allowing




00:52:00

Panda and I to run shop on you that day. We took lots of money




00:52:03

from him, which I loved. That was amazing. We love doing




00:52:07

that. And then most importantly, of course, shout out all of our




00:52:11

friends at Cabot anyway, thanks for listening. We'll catch you all




00:52:14

next time. Later. Did I tell you about my albatross? Thanks for




00:52:18

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00:52:29

greens. Here we go. Come on. Did I tell you about my




00:52:33

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